A rambling blog by a Christian in Northern Ireland
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Gary has been involved in printing the Scriptures for 20 years, enjoys photography and rambling online
Enjoyed what you said about choice. I agree, I love choice as well and very few of us these days are doing the same job as our parents. I don't think this is right or wrong. Like you said it's about finding the balance.
Perhaps it's more about being the right kind of person who makes the right kind of choices for the right kind of reasons. Choices that are made not from selfish hearts (as we all are prone to), but from hearts that want to serve God and others. Then we can feel free to choose what we like.
A bit like the quote you quoted last time (I think) "Love God and do what you like."
Great thoughts and I admire your honesty.
PS: Would be great to have your wife share her story down here in Co. Mayo sometime.
I'm sure Babs'll see your comment and i'll leave it for her to reply.
What i'd say is that although she hates public speaking, she would be very capable & i believe her story of God's grace, although she'd say its unexciting, would be very encouraging to Christians living within catholic communities.
I find it interesting that you don't consider Catholicism to be Christian. I know that Irish people view it differently (my husband is an Orange Man) but I assumed that Catholics are still under the Christian umbrella!
(I will post on this chapter later)
Haha, a huge issue heartafire. is the roman catholic church truly christian?
personally i believe not (although i do believe that many catholic people are indeed saved).
Here's a few of my random & i do mean random thoughts on this as it would take days to properly organize & write on something that is hotly debated by other, much greater minds than me.
The catholic church believes that sacriments & leaders along with dead saints etc function in medaitorial roles, yet 1 Tim 2:5 tells us that Christ is our only mediator with God.
The catholics church's focus on a works based salvation rather than by faith alone. Along with the continual stance of the church that those who believe salvation is by faith apart from works are accursed, i believe that the r.c. church misread the relationship of faith and work.
We do good works because we're saved not as a means to add to our salvation.
Again scripture is clear on this fact that it is by grace through faith, not works, that we are saved.
There is also a focus that succession and not faith is the entry point into the community of God, and that the hierarchy of bishops, priests, popes etc are 'successors of the authority of the apostles'. Whereas the Bible clearly teaches that all those who believe are a royal priesthood.
The main issue is the cross: was Christ's work sufficent or do we need to add to this by our works, confessions, money, prayers etc. I believe that to add anything into the mix is to deny the sufficency of the work of Christ in salvation.
I've no doubt that others can explain this better than i can!
Gary, I appreciate all that you're saying about the Catholic church, and I agree with your reservations, and know that they have a LOT of things wrong.
I disagree with you though, that they are not Christian. It is indeed a Christian religion, at least here in the Southern US, though with a lot of human fallibility and sin mixed in.
The older I get, the more I realize how we screw up even the best religions. Being an Episcopalian myself, [our national church is going to hell in a handbasket, and it seems the COE is not far behind] I find I am much more tolerant of human frailty.
The Catholics get a lot of things right, and I agree with you about the ones they do wrong---i.e. we need no intercessor but JC himself, and they do elevate works over grace--wrong, wrong, wrong---but I would dispute your assertion that they are not a Christian religion.
What I think they get right (as opposed to many , even most, of the mainstream religions, is a true and real reverence for the Lord, a proper idea of their own sin nature, and the need for redemption and reconciliation via the shed blood.
OK...now on to the book.
What a great read it is.
In fact, my only quibble with it as a book discussion selection, is that there is very little discussion challenge here. Among serious Christians, I don't see much room for meaty discussion, given that DeYoung is so very sound! I love everything he has written, and I high-five him on every page!
What I particularly loved about this chapter:
1. You can never go wrong with the Esther story. For people who quibble that women are "second class citizens, the Bible and patriarchy is misogynistic, etc.--akll one needs do is p9oint to Bible greats like Esther.
2. Though I know it's true, this hit me afresh on p. 41: "He has planned out and works out every detail of our lives--the joyous days and the difficult--all for our good (Eccl.7:14) "Because we have confidence in God's will of decree, we can radically commit ourselves to His will of desire, without fretting over a hidden will of direction." WOW. How much better could he have said that?!
and then, what I think is the crux of this book:
3.) "We can stop pleading with God to show us the future and start living and obeying like we are confident that He holds the future."
Simply stunning.
Yeh, Heartafire i think its one of those books that is so scripturally based and practically evident that its very hard to disagree with, hence there's no real discussion about it.
We're all in agreement.
Maybe after this book we can pick something a bit more discussionary challenging.
I am finding the book very helpful to me though, and as you say much of it is 'Simply stunning.'
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