Friday, 19 June 2009

Just Do Something Chapter Two

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Today we arrive at our 2nd week of 'Just Do Something . . .' By Kevin DeYoung (Who's wife just had a baby).
Last week we looked at Chapter1 'The Long Road to Nowhere' in which Kevin sets forth the argument that many of us are 'tinkerers' & often use the quest for God's will as an excuse to prolong adultolesence & avoid making decisions etc.



Discussion
In this chapter Kevin explains 3 main ways in which we talk of God's will.
1st there is 'God's will of decree - what He has predetermined from eternity past - cannot be thwarted.' 2nd is 'God's will of desire - the way He wants us to live - can be disregarded.'

Talking of how God's will of decree & desire come together Kevin says "I believe that there are theological categories that can help us reconcile divine sovereignty and human responsibility, but diving into these ideas would take us far beyond the scope of this short book. I am simply noting that God is sovereign, but He is not the author of sin."

I think he sums this up well when he writes "We are under His sovereignty, but we are not free from responsibility for our actions."
Before moving on from this, i'd just like to say that i love how Kevin dealt with it, & though i'd like to read what his categories are, i agree that it would take us off course.


The 3rd meaning we have for God's will is His 'will of direction' - "We want to know His individual, specific plan for the who, what, where, when, and how of our lives."

Kevin then poses the question:
"Does God have a secret will of direction that He expects us to figure out before we do anything?"

I know alot of people who would disagree with Kevin's answer to this, but on my part i think his answer of "no" makes absolute sense, and i found the rest of this chapter to be very liberating.
He argues that "Yes" God is sovereign & has individual plans for us, and often we'll look back & see God's leading & purposes. "But" Kevin says, "while we are free to ask for wisdom, He does not burden us with the task of divining His will of direction for our lives ahead of time."

On page 25 Kevin quotes Gerald Sittser on the Conventional way of understanding God's will of direction, which he describes as being 'Misguided'.

Now, i totally agree with what Kevin says here, and have done since first hearing John MacArthur on 'Knowing God's Will' but i can understand why some would struggle with this view at the first hearing of it.
It seems that there is, especially in N.Ireland, a strong Christian culture that holds tightly to the conventional approach & is quite unwilling to give a hearing to others. But i think Kevin brings wisdom to the table when he says:

"He is a good God who gives us brains, shows us the way of obedience, and invites us to take risks for Him...

...The better way is the biblical way: Seek first the kingdom of God, and then trust that He will take care of our needs, even before we know what they are and where we're going."

The highlight of the chapter, for me, was Psalm 139:16 "Your eyes saw my unformed substance; in your book were written, every one of them, the days that were formed for me, when as yet there were none of them." I found this verse to be so liberating in that i can simply trust that God has a plan & purpose. Not that i know the plan, or need to! But that i can live, trust & risk, stepping out in faith, knowing that unless it is written in His book of my life, it will not come to pass.

The hard part is drumming this into my head, heart & life!

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Your Turn
Over to you, i've written alot today (perhaps too much). Now i look forward to what others say about this chapter. What do you think of what Kevin says vs the conventional approach? What stood out, challenged or excited you, & did you disagree with him on anything?

See Also:
*Undiluted Christianity*
*Supersimbo*

Next week
Next week we'll take a break since i'm on holiday. But the following week (3rd July) we'll turn to Chapter 3 'Directionally Challenged'.
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7 comments:

barbara boal said...

I think this chapter was great, Its so true, too many of us (myself included) sit waiting on signs and wonders and wishing gods will. Instead wouldnt if be better if we took the approach of seeking first the kingdom of god, and then he will take care of the rest. wouldnt it be so much easier for us to take a leap of faith then knowing god will provide if its his will.

Boaly said...

Hey princess, so right. You & i should beat this truth into each others head over & over like the same beat on a worn out drum untill we get it.

By the way, i love you;-)

heartafire said...

How grateful I was to read this chapter.

It dovetails perfectly with what we are taught in church, at least my particular church, about our particular nature (sinful and fallen) and the contrast between that, and God's greatness and majesty and perfect will, which is sometimes unsearchable, and unknowable.

I think humility which comes from a deep knowledge of our true nature is the only thing which can make it "OK" not to always know what God is up to, in the same way a small child completely trusts a loving parent, even when he doesn't know the "why."

"If God has a wonderful plan for my life, why don't I know it?" presupposes the idea that God should conform to our earthly desires for knowledge of the future, when really this desire really comes from anxiety and need to control outcomes.

This is one of the hardest areas for people who are not Christians to grapple with---God's absolute sovereignty and their own powerlessness. It's hard for Christians to grapple with, too!

I don't know yet, but I'm getting the feeling that his title "Just Do Something" is sort of saying "Do the best you can *at something* to the best of your knowledge, because you will never (at least here on earth) *know* what God's perfect will is, because you are not perfect.

I so agree with your summation of his important premise that while we're under God's sovereignty we're not free from responsibility. I'd take it one step further and suggest that even though we're not "free from responsibility," at the same time we are wholly unable to free ourselves from sin's grip--even the sin of inertia---without God's will. So, to that extent, we actually even do have a little "freedom from responsibility." We cannot do what he does not give us to do.

I would posit that the extent of our responsibility is to constantly learn and grow in love and knowledge of him, so that our wills become more wed to His, and even then, with the growth of that knowledge and love, I believe what happens is that the gulf widens between his utter perfection and our utter depravity. No, we don't get "closer" to God's perfection, instead we become more aware of how small we are and how huge He is.

Instead of inducing a sense of despair as a result of this gulf, it makes me want to fall on my face in wonder and gratitude.

The answer, for me, to his question is "no." "Sometimes we know, in part, but [only] then shall we know fully." I am certain we are not meant to know God's will fully, here on earth, or his plan for our particular lives. I am skeptical of people who claim to. Sure, sometimes you can see it in retrospect, and rarely you can see it while it's happening, but I don't think it's a prerequisite, and not only is it not necessary, but I don't find it desirable. What need would we have of faith? All we would do is try to control things even more than we already do,

Finally, I loved his "will of deisre>" This speaks so beautifully to us of God's desire for a relationship with us---which is sometimes too amazing to wrap my little brain around.

How (and WHY????) could he, in his absolute perfection, want to have anything to do with struggling and sinful people like me? yet, in laying out his plan in the Bible, and letting us know how He desires things to be, it says to me that he cares to be pleased by us. He cares about the big things of our lives, as well as the minutiae. Wow.

So far, great book.

John Fitzsimmons. said...

Really enjoyed your thoughts on this chapter.

It's a great little book so glad I found out about it. It's such a liberating way to live life.

Boaly said...

Yeh, John, it's brilliant, so very different than the normal approach i've been used to hearing about.

A few years ago i heard John MacArthur talking about God's will in pretty much the same approach as Kevin, so very liberating.

heartafire i'm with you when you say

"Instead of inducing a sense of despair as a result of this gulf, it makes me want to fall on my face in wonder and gratitude."

Amen!

Gemma Roche said...

loved this chapter too and i think this sentence is it in a nutshell...'he is a good God who gives us brains, shows us the way of obedience, and invites us to take risks for Him.' resonates v much with macarthurs teaching.
loved John's comments too.
God has revealed his will to us, love him and follow him. if your heart is for him you can do whatever else you want, cos who has your heart?

Boaly said...

Augustine said 'love God & do what you want'